demotic wrote:Does the warning say that you've "uploaded"?
Or does it say that you've "downloaded" or "transferred" ?
if this did happen from merely downloading, via newsbin, then another theory might be this...
1) Some copyright holder reported to GN that certain items (Message IDs) violate copyright
2) GN deletes the material, but keeps a record of reported message IDs
3) You try to download via an NZB file, this triggers GN's list of "bad" message IDs
4) GN, to ensure they keep their "safe harbor" status, send you a warning
on the GN site, they tell copyright holders how to register a violation by message ID
Quade wrote:Someone on the IRC channel mentioned what this is probably about. Using bittorrent through VyperVPN. If you use Bittorrent, they have your IP,
According to this, that isn't such a good idea: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittor ... -good-ideaQuade wrote:To me, the only way to do a "safe" torrent might be "Tor". Even then you don't know how safe it really is. If you were to Tor through vyper for example. I think you'd probably be pretty hard to find.
Giganews has your IP no matter what you do when you use their VPN, right? They are supposed to keep other people from seeing your IP, so I assumed other people don't have it? If other people get your IP then isn't Giganews' claim misleading?
Quade wrote:Did you torrent through Vyper or not? You're throwing the baby out with the bath water if you ask me.
Quade wrote:They claim you're POSTING copyrighted material. You might want to contact giganews about this.
We have received multiple DMCA notices from copyright holders or their authorized agents that you, or someone using your account, have allegedly infringed their copyrights. Please stop immediately.
Quade wrote:Well, so far the only people who seem to have gotten the notice have admitted to using torrents over the VPN. If you torrent copyrighted material, you're effectively posting it back to other torrent users. That's how torrent works. You have to read between the lines. Why would Giganews send you this notice unless they themselves were served with requests from someone else? I'm skeptical that Giga tracks what you download from the news server. If it came out that they did, there'd be a mass exodus to some other servers who don't track.We have received multiple DMCA notices from copyright holders or their authorized agents that you, or someone using your account, have allegedly infringed their copyrights. Please stop immediately.
This says it all. Someone outside of giganews has sent notices to giganews that someone using the VPN is downloading copyrighted material. There's no way these 3rd parties could know what you downloaded from Usenet.
Quade wrote:You get a notice from Giganews about something that happened through a "GoldenFrog" property. What does that tell you? It suggests to me that notices should have come from Goldenfrog but, didn't. I think that's another oversight on their part. I didn't even think of it either till just now.
T_llguy wrote:Thank you everyone that contributed to this VERY informative thread. (Especially Quade for explaining torrents and their failing points while using them).
Then again, numerous arrests related to Anonymous have shown that many participants in denial-of-service attacks didn't take any steps to mask their IP address.
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