Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

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Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby Quade » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:02 pm

Newsbin 6 is made with VC10. VC10 has been prevented from making Win2k compatible EXE files by Microsoft so, while technically it might work just fine, MS has locked '2k users out.


http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStud ... ndows-2000
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby TMM » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:25 pm

ccording you use a different compiler I assume that the code is C++ therefore you could use a external compiler to make it executable files that would work under now unsupported operating systems
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby Quade » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:27 pm

I might be able too but, it's an awful lot of work for the 5 people who still use Win2k.
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby TMM » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:31 pm

In addition to what I wrote . I also noticed this on the link you provided

Thank you for the problem report.

Unfortunately, we deprecated support for building images that run against Windows 200 with the VS2010 version of the C\C++ libraries and compiler.

VS2010 does support multitargeting. This enables you, from within VS2010, to compile your application with earlier version of libraries and compilers (if you also have VS2008 installed on your machine).

So for application that need to run on win2k, you can leverage all the advantages of the VS2010 editor, build system, etc, but use the VS2008 compiler\linker and libraries which allows your application to run on win2k.
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby Quade » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:49 pm

Answers the same, it's a shitload of work.
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby chiphead » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:54 pm

Time to get with the times. 2k came out over a decade ago. I'd much rather see a OSX or Linux version.
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby DaveXVI » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:04 pm

So I guess I should stop asking for an Amiga version?
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby TMM » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:57 pm

chiphead wrote:Time to get with the times. 2k came out over a decade ago. I'd much rather see a OSX or Linux version.

Oh I agree. I was simply pointing out that if he really wanted to do it. There were ways around it but as he has stated it is a shit load to get it to work
and really not worth it as for a Linux version.it works perfectly under Wine
and for OS X he either would have to buy a Mac or use a cross-platform compiler
and even then there would be no guarantee it will work correctly
and given the networking stack is different
I highly doubt it would work
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby Quade » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:11 am

and even then there would be no guarantee it will work correctly
and given the networking stack is different
I highly doubt it would work


You'd be wrong.

The only sticking point to getting Newsbin running anywhere is the GUI. The lower level stuff is all pure BSD sockets which works the same (mostly) on Linux or OSX. I had a command line version of Newsbin working under linux some years ago as an experiment. Up until recently all the code in the download engine had sufficient "ifdefs" to compile under linux. The only thing in Newsbin that's "Microsoft" is the display. This win2k thing is purely arbitrary. There's no missing features in Win2k that would prevent Newsbin from working. Microsoft just said "FU" to Win2k users.

I don't want to beat this whole Win2k thing to death, I've not said no but, it's not something I'm going to make my primary task right now. I have other things in 6 that need doing first. The simple fact is that Win2k users are a small minority of users. Every hour spent fighting to get a Win2k version for a handful of people is an hour taken away from more productive work.
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Re: Win2k support in Newsbin 6. Not good news.

Postby richy99 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:12 am

you should direct any win2k users towards M$ and the fact that win2k no longer is supported by them since July 13, 2010 tell them to get M$ to support it and you will build a version

personally i dont see why you need to make a build for an OS that is no longer officially supported and used only by a minority few
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