Usenet is dying

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Usenet is dying

Postby tongueboy » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:55 am

You must know this will completely destroy your business model.
Do you have any solutions or should I cancel my membership now?
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Re: Usenet is dying

Postby Quade » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:38 am

What I download isn't impacted but we're aware that things have become more obscure.

Dex and I are talking about what to do about it. We have some ideas.

Our search engine pulls out many obscured posts and lets you download them. It's a moving target though so we have to constantly make changes. If you're not using search, you could try it.
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Re: Usenet is dying

Postby mister_loaf » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:45 pm

Quade wrote:What I download isn't impacted but we're aware that things have become more obscure.

Dex and I are talking about what to do about it. We have some ideas.

Our search engine pulls out many obscured posts and lets you download them. It's a moving target though so we have to constantly make changes. If you're not using search, you could try it.


Newsbin does pretty well with the "obscured" posts. However, there's a much bigger problem. Usenet is being flooded with garbage posts -- hundreds and hundreds of gigabytes every day, and this has been going on for quite a while. I just don't see how it is sustainable.
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Re: Usenet is dying

Postby Quade » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:54 pm

Newsbin does pretty well with the "obscured" posts. However, there's a much bigger problem. Usenet is being flooded with garbage posts -- hundreds and hundreds of gigabytes every day, and this has been going on for quite a while. I just don't see how it is sustainable.


They're usable posts, just not usable by people downloading headers. I'm not seeing much trash posting. Instead I'm seeing a bunch of competing obscured posts.
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Re: Usenet is dying

Postby UPdown » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:42 am

I spent about a week taking advantage of my uncapped (in terms of bandwidth at a lower speed) web service and downloaded every encrypted file I could. I vividly remember downloading 22 (twenty two, NOT a mistype!) copies of the same large file. And five smaller versions of the same. It was THAT night that I decided to invest time and energy into NZB files and found an external cataloging service that was price-point sensitive and SOLVED my issue with the new 'hunt for unlabelled cans and open them, hoping it's something good' strategy.

Honestly, I don't QUITE get the whole file name encryption thing. MAYBE it helps get by the stream detectors that are in place with ISP's. But ultimately, they get decrypted and the people interested in stopping this practice are going to know everything they would have known without the encryption. It makes them work harder, spend more money. But they've got more money than the devil himself. I've found my workaround. I've adapted to the changing times. But UseNet has been dying for some two decades at this point. It'll outlast me and that's all I care about.

And thanks to posters, encrypted or not.
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Re: Usenet is dying

Postby Quade » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:35 am

Honestly, I don't QUITE get the whole file name encryption thing. MAYBE it helps get by the stream detectors that are in place with ISP's.


I think it's primarily for people who only want to service their members. It's not effective to prevent takedowns because the people who do takedowns just need to get the NZB's to do it.
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