Quade wrote:I'm not sure. I've re-worked this significantly for RC4 because of reports that it wouldn't shut down.
I'll see if I can reproduce it.
Related, I've also experienced a similar problem. Same conditions/symptoms, except after maybe 4-5 minutes of no activity newsbin will all of a sudden start processing the downloads. I've never been able to determine why this happened or how to duplicate it, so I've not reported it either.
Quade wrote:
I have a feeling the problem is more that you're not getting visual feedback than that it's not working. I've been thinking about re-working the way progress is shown in light of these new massive single files
1 used to see (in pre 6.9 builds, not sure when this started) the download complete to the point when a repair and unrar start, then the status would change to "Paused" until the file was landed in the ultimate destination,
then the status would change to "Running" and downloads would continue.
and now I get no more...
Quade wrote:1 used to see (in pre 6.9 builds, not sure when this started) the download complete to the point when a repair and unrar start, then the status would change to "Paused" until the file was landed in the ultimate destination,
then the status would change to "Running" and downloads would continue.
I'll check it out. Thanks.and now I get no more...
That's interesting. What does this software do?
I have a feeling it has something to do with the task bar decorations. For newsbin to crash from this is probably still a Newsbin bug. In the sense that Newsbin shouldn't crash no matter what the task bar is doing.
Vimes wrote:Quade wrote:1 used to see (in pre 6.9 builds, not sure when this started) the download complete to the point when a repair and unrar start, then the status would change to "Paused" until the file was landed in the ultimate destination,
then the status would change to "Running" and downloads would continue.
I'll check it out. Thanks.and now I get no more...
That's interesting. What does this software do?
I have a feeling it has something to do with the task bar decorations. For newsbin to crash from this is probably still a Newsbin bug. In the sense that Newsbin shouldn't crash no matter what the task bar is doing.
For those who wish to restore a lot of functionality, both functional and aesthetics, to Windows 11, that they have been used to in previous versions of Windows, it is a most wonderful utility.
Taskbar visual and functional changes are part of it, as are Explorer changes.
Vimes wrote:@JayPea
Interesting, so not necessarily linked to my particular setup then, thanks for posting.
I hadn't expected it to be, as already noted, Newsbin is the only application that I have seen behave this way, in terms of crashes.
JayPea wrote:Vimes wrote:@JayPea
Interesting, so not necessarily linked to my particular setup then, thanks for posting.
I hadn't expected it to be, as already noted, Newsbin is the only application that I have seen behave this way, in terms of crashes.
I haven't seen many CTD tbh, perhaps 3-4 in total since using v5855, and I haven't seen one for a while. I'll post publically on the next one, if/when it occurrs.
Quade wrote:I've made code changes to armor access to the taskbar. I assume it's taskbar related because the software you're using seems to modify how that all works.
JayPea wrote:Vimes wrote:@JayPea
Interesting, so not necessarily linked to my particular setup then, thanks for posting.
I hadn't expected it to be, as already noted, Newsbin is the only application that I have seen behave this way, in terms of crashes.
I haven't seen many CTD tbh, perhaps 3-4 in total since using v5855, and I haven't seen one for a while. I'll post publically on the next one, if/when it occurrs.
For me, I was not sure if it was related to using StarTAllBack, Newsbin AND a Windows 11 updates, of some sort....?
Quade wrote:For me, I was not sure if it was related to using StarTAllBack, Newsbin AND a Windows 11 updates, of some sort....?
Funny you should mention that. MS just announced one of their updates stops Ubisoft games from playing.
These days I keep my updates disabled and only update when the coast seems clear.
I could be wrong here. But I have a thought that with Windows 11 updates can be deferred / paused, only some, for so long,
Quade wrote:I could be wrong here. But I have a thought that with Windows 11 updates can be deferred / paused, only some, for so long,
Where there's a will, there's a way. Even though Win11 turns your PC into Microsoft's PC there are always work-arounds if you have physical access to the machine and control the internet that it's connected to. For example I have a box that does ad blocking using DNS. It can also block telemetry and other "phone home" by simply not letting the PC find the address of the remote server. I firewall DNS so, machines on my network are required to use this box for DNS.
I'm still on Win10 and won't change till I'm forced to. I have Win11 running in a VM under Linux so I can test with it.
Quade wrote:If all you do it browse the web, consume media and run Newsbin, Linux is a good choice.
Vimes wrote:Then again, with Windows updates being a variable, and maybe at some point StartAllBack will be updated
Saskija wrote:I was also suffering from inexplicable Newsbin crashes for the last couple of months. In my case I'm still using the last official release: Newsbin Pro 6.90 b5524. Interesting to find out that StartAllBack is the culprit.
From what I gather parts of StartAllBack were rewritten after MS decided to remove the legacy code the tool depended upon to show the Windows 10 taskbar. The tool was always 100% stable, but from that point I started encountering bugs like the taskbar not showing multiple application windows if I hovered the mouse on the taskbar icon. Those issues have now cleared up, but it seems there's at least one more bug left to fix.
BTW The StartAllBack developer needs crash dumps before he accepts bug reports.
This is how to generate them:
1) Import this registry key http://startisback.com/Enable_Crash_Reports.reg
2) Create C:\dumps folder
3) Crash
4) Send dmp file from C:\dumps folder
The developer hangs out on msfn.org, his handle is Tihiy.
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